Hanna
Megan
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Yippie
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Hurray
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Hi babyyy
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Hi babyy. How you doing?
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I’m good. I need to get comfy.
There’s an extra pillow in the chair; which should be a good thing, but
it’s like messing up my groove.
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*struggling sound* there it is…okay
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*Giggle*
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That’s all I am this morning.
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Oh, I’m also thrilled to report that the baby only woke up twice last night.
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And one of those times was when I went to bed at like
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10 something. And the other of those times was
his normal like 3:30 / 4 o’clock wake up. Which is… *sigh of relief*
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Sounds so great.
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Oh it’s great because the night
before he woke up every two and a half hours
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and that was too much.
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I assume you did not take a nap yesterday.
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Too…much. No, I didn’t take a nap yesterday.
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But I did have help yesterday. Which was great.
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One of his many grandmothers came over and hung out with him.
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So I got to get a little work done and
not be entirely emotionally and cognitively engaged all day long.
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So that was lovely. Because turns out, babies take a lot of energy.
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Like a lot.
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And… love doing it. But she exhausting.
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Yeah. Whenever I have a week
or a day where I’m like: Okay,
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I’m gonna give myself a 24-hour vacation
and just be on this couch and eat chocolate.
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I sometimes think: Cherish this
girl, because once you’re a mom…
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there’s no such thing.
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No that’s not true. There’s
totally such a thing. They’re just shorter.
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You got five minutes. Replenish!
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Right.
I had weekend long netflix binges
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and that is not a thing that exists anymore.
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I haven’t watched a show…
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What was the last show I watched? Well, I did watch
the first two episodes of Top Gear America.
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Which came out last week. I mostly listened to them while I was doing housework or work work.
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But I did watch some of it and I watched two whole episodes and that was like a big deal.
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So hooray for that. Yeah, not a lot of… not a lot of like, just sitting on the couch and doing nothing
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Yeah, there is… I mean, I’m saying this
like I’m a whole 100% totally engaged
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with my child whenever I’m around him. Which is not 100% true. That’s the goal and that’s
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the ideal but it’s never going to actually
happen to 100%. I do have moments where
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I realize that he needs my attention
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significantly after he starts
signaling that he needs my attention.
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And I’m like: Oh, was I dissociating or just like
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checked out for a second?
And usually, the second one.
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Hey, you’re human too.
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Yeah. Oh, incredibly human.
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Yeah. So yeah. How are you? Are you feeling better?
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Yes.
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Last time we talked, you were very… on edge.
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periody.
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Yeah, I was pms-ing. Which technically… Technically no, because the p says pre, right? And I was in it.
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So I was ms-ing. Let’s say that.
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You were ms-ing.
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Yeah. Very hard. Which I think we’re gonna do an episode about period stuff at some point.
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Yeah, I’m excited to hear about that. I got a… I got a little teaser in text form and it seemed pretty exciting.
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Yeah, because it was a lot different this time.
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Okay, anyways. Let’s jump into the episode
because we have four chapters to discuss today.
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So it’s already gonna be quite a bit.
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Yeah, I have to say: This is the most organized of any of our podcast episodes that we have planned so far.
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Yeah, don’t expect this level of organization for all of them. Because they’re not gonna be.
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No. But that’s okay.
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But this time it is. This time we have chapters. There is four of them.
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Speaking of wich… let me pull up our notes.
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You go ahead. I’m gonna introduce them.
The first chapter
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Ah, well, I did just drop my camera, so…
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Is it still recording?
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Yes, it’s still recording.
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Okay, cool.
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Hopefully I’m not totally off center now. I think we’re okay. Let me adjust a little. Okay.
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Welcome to our still struggling technical difficulties.
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Look. So far the recording hasn’t stopped yet. So… knock on wood.
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That’s a plus. Because, I don’t know if we’ve mentioned this yet… We’ve
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lost quite a few episodes. Anyways.
So today we want to talk about names.
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Our own and our our children’s names. As if I had some already. The first chapter is gonna be about
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my name. Because maybe some people might be confused as to why I’m calling myself Hanna
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here. Because maybe they came from my social media accounts or my website, where I go by Charlotte.
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Or they know you in your life from other facets.
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Or they know me from my personal life also by another name.
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So i’ll explain that in the first
chapter. Then the second bit:
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Megan’s gonna talk about her decision making and still being in the
process… It’ about her last name.
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Why she decided to…
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Why and how she decided about her last
name after getting married. And why that’s
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still a topic three… four? years after… three and a half?
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Whoa, calm down it has been three years.
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and a half… okay anyways
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Yeah, no, you’re right. It has been three and a half.
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The third one is about Megan and
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they came up with the name. Like, what their process was, their decision-making process.
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And then the fourth one is about my and my partner’s process and already like difficulties
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about children’s names for children
that we don’t even have yet.
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All right. Oh, I wanted to pass the baton to you now, but…
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Oh you can’t, it’s you Hanna Charlotte.
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Yeah. All right, so: chapter one: My full
name, my maiden name is: Hanna Charlotte Stein.
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I now have also a second last name,
since I got married. Because my husband and
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I combined our last names. So both of our
last names are Stein … and then his name. And…
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I did this better last time. I’m not in the groove today. We already recorded this once and…
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Well, so I call you Hanna. Why is that?
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Right. Thank you.
Okay, so I have two first names.
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Because ideally, your internet quote unquote “brand” would all be the same name. So ideally, I would be calling you Charlotte.
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Right.
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But I ain’t gonna do that.
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No. Megan knows me as Hanna. ‘Cause that’s what I go by
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I was gonna say in Germany but that’s also not true. In my family. Like people that have known me
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growing up and all of my family call me Hanna. I, when I was a child, never liked that name. I always
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liked my middle name, my second first name, better: Charlotte.
Which is why, when I did an exchange year
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in the U.S. when I was 16, I decided: Hey, I
can be a brand new person. I can reinvent myself.
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So I’m just gonna use this other name. So I
introduced myself as Charlotte in the States.
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So whoever I met there knows me as Charlotte. Which becomes confusing when Megan meets other people.
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‘Cause those are also Americans.
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Yes, that has happened.
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We’ve traveled in the states and Megan has met my host sister I think. Anyways.
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So people sometimes meet that call me by
different names and then it gets confusing.
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So there was that. And that was great. So
I did that again when I went to Brazil.
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After graduating high school I did a
gap year in Brazil for volunteer service.
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And again, I introduced myself as Charlotte.
Which there, they say Charlotte [portuguese pronunciation]. So that is also the name…
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Which is what Matheus calls you, isn’t it?
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Exactly. I was just gonna say: that’s where I met my husband and that’s why he also knows me by that name. And his whole family.
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He uses Hanna here in Germany, because he knows everybody else calls me by that
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but to him I’m Charlotte. Anyways.
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So there’s that country thing and then
whenever I started like a new friends
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group… like when I started volunteering here in Germany. And I thought: No one that already
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knows me is gonna come into this group so
I’m just gonna do the Charlotte thing again.
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‘Cause you like being called Charlotte.
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Yeah, I guess. I also had…
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So since I did that thing in the states, I did
actually address different characteristics
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to each of those names.
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Like Charlotte is the braver one and Hanna
used to be the the shy one that thought that
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nobody loved her and had all these conflict…
you know, puberty. That was the puberty personality.
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So anyways. That’s how that happened. And when I started my business,
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I didn’t want to use my whole name: two first names, two last names. Also, when I started that
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I didn’t have two last names yet. So I decided to just go with the middle and just use the Charlotte Stein.
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So that’s why all my social media handles
are Charlotte Stein. That’s why my business is
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called Charlotte Stein Coaching. So that’s why some of you might know me as Charlotte or Charlotte [German pronunciation] and it’s
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also my name, just as much as Hanna is. Either way. You can call me whatever you want. It’s just
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that Megan knows me as Hanna. So we decided it would be really weird for her to try to call me Charlotte.
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Charlotte [German pronunciation] I guess, could almost be okay…
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Right, I could almost call you Charlotte [german pronunciation] because I’ve called you Charlotte [german pronunciation] before,
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and your mom calls you Charlotte [german pronunciation]… So, like,
or I call you Hanna Charlotte [german pronunciation], but
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Charlotte [german pronunciation] is a very german sounding name, whereas Hanna [German pronunciation] can work in English as well.
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And I can’t call you Charlotte [American pronunciation] because that’s just not who you are in my head.
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So yeah, we decided it wouldn’t make sense.
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Yeah. So here we are, just making an episode about it.
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All right, so that’s that.
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So that’s you.
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Yep, that’s me.
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You’re cool, you have all the names. And you… so can I… follow up question:
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How do you feel about Hanna now? Do you feel like it’s still imbued with those characteristics? Because now I’m interested. Like, is that, a part of this podcast, where like…
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or does it come into when I talk to you?
Like, now I’m… now I’m interested…
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No. I’ve done a lot of soul searching within the last four years and
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that part is… okay, how do I say that?
No, I don’t have negative associate *struggles with pronunciation*
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associations to that name anymore. I don’t… I even don’t have that split anymore of the the meanings
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to the first names. Now it’s just both me.
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Cool.
You’ve integrated your personalities.
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I have. Yeah.
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Congrats.
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Integrated shadows, integrated personalities.
It’s all it’s all a big integration here.
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It’s great, people. You should try. Integration is wonderful. It does amazing things.
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Well cool.
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Okay. Enough about me.
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Yeah. Speaking of personalities and names and having them imbued with meaning…
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Oh yeah! That’s a good segway!
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What a segway.
So I got married in 2017
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and my maiden name is Megan Frook. I do
have a middle name, but it’s not relevant.
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And so, I always imagined growing up, because that’s what’s normal in our society, or what
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has been normal and traditional in our society, that I would take my husband’s last name. Because I
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planned to marry a man and that’s just it.
It didn’t even seem like a question.
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And then, as I got older and became a
feminist and learned more about the world
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I did question it. I was like: Well, do I really want to do that? And, you know, went through all these
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things in my head and imagined what it would be like, not to have my last name anymore and then
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I didn’t really want to do that and so
what I ended up deciding I wanted to do
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was take my maiden name and make it my middle name.
And then take my husband’s last name. My main
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motivation for that at the time was that I
wanted to have the same last name as my children.
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And again, didn’t even occur to me to question that my children would have my husband’s last name.
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Because we live in the patriarchy and it’s inside of our brains. The very least, it’s inside mine, but
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I’m pretty sure it’s inside all of ours to one
extent or another.
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Remind me, I could say something about…
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No, say something now.
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No, it’s going to be a story. Finish yours.
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Okay. So, I had a brief conversation with my partner, my now husband, about, you know, like, would
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he be interested in changing his last name or taking my last name for his middle name?
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And he didn’t express interest in it and it was kind of an awkward conversation and we were
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in a very different place in our relationship
at the time where we were still learning to…
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I was still learning how to have
difficult… we were learning
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how to have difficult conversations&
and how… and I was learning how to
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sit in conflict and be comfortable in
conflict. And I was not there and I just,
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and I was like: Okay, never mind. This is really important to him. that I take his last name.
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Even though literally his words were:
I think it would be nice if we had the
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same last name or if you had my last name.
Like, those were literally his words and so
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what I heard was: This is super important to him and so, if I’m okay with it, I should go for it.
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That’s not what he said but that’s what I
understood. Or that’s what I heard.
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So I changed my name after we got married.
And it actually took me a year to do it.
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And the only reason I ended up pulling the trigger…
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I think would have put it off
indefinitely until I was comfortable having
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another conversation with him, because I… even though I believed that I was comfortable with
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the decision I had made… obviously putting it off for a year should have told me something.
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And the only reason I ended up pulling the
trigger was because, you know, six months before
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I had booked a plane ticket under my planned new name. Because the name on your ticket has to
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match the name on your ID and I assumed that by then the name on my ID would be my married name.
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And so, like three or four weeks before I was gonna get on that plane, I was like: Oh crap!
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I have to change my name, because I have this plane ticket in my new name. So I did and then…
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And again, I thought that I had made this
decision. That I was happy with this decision.
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I didn’t investigate it much further in my brain.
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And I actually had like a semi
confrontation with a friend about…
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She had made some off-handed remark about: Why would you ever take your husband’s name?!
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That is such an old-fashioned thing.
I do not belong to this man and
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anyone who does that is crazy! And yes, that was a bit of an insensitive remark, but I
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also got way too emotional about it and
defensive about it. And I only say too emotional
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and defensive because I recognize now that I was reacting to my own judgment of myself,
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rather than her judgment of theoretical people that change their name when they get married.
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So
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After I changed my name, went on that flight,
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came home, went about my life, my
new name didn’t really matter.
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I didn’t change my name at work. I would have had to get around to that eventually. Again, I put
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it off. But shortly thereafter I left that
job and moved. Ao we moved across the state
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and then a few months later, I started a new job and obviously I filled out all the paperwork for
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that job with my new name and, you know, first name, middle name, last name. I included all three of them.
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And I was very conscientious about
including my maiden name, my middle name.
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But of course,
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your middle name, at least in America, is not something that people pay attention to. It’s not
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something that people include if they’re thinking about your name. It’s an interesting sort of
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thing that we do. Giving people middle names that we kind of don’t pay attention to, unless
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they want them to be front and center and even then it’s like that person has to say: this is
00:22:17.920 –> 00:22:23.920
the name that I go by, or: This is the name… You know, like, it’s very… it has to be very purposeful for
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that person to put their middle name out there. So when I got to my new job, everyone was calling me
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specifically my first name and my last name.
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And I was like: Who is this person? I
don’t even know who this person is.
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And nobody actually knows me, because they’re all calling me this name that isn’t my name.
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And I don’t know why they’re all calling me this name, that isn’t my name. And I was so frustrated
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by it. And I tried to make a point to tell my
colleague. Specifically one colleague ,that I
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interacted with a lot every day: This is my
name and this is what I’d like to be called.
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She just didn’t pay it any mind. Like, she either didn’t remember it or couldn’t be bothered. And
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so I just felt like I had totally lost my
identity. This is a theme for me, we’ll pick
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it back up in pregnancy. But I felt like I had
lost my identity. I felt like I had become this
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new person and nobody knew who I was. And all of the history of me and my name was gone and…
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Yeah. So I realized I didn’t… I didn’t want
this to be my name anymore. I didn’t want
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this new name that I had.
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And that was a surprise to me, because I
hadn’t let myself investigate it.
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So at that point I started asking around: Can I change my name back or can I hyphenate it?
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I have a friend who works for social security and she was like: It’s pretty complicated to change it.
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But you could say, that you made a mistake or the person made a mistake that was changing your name.
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It just seemed really complicated. So I
haven’t really looked into it further. Anyone out
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there knows of a relatively straightforward
way to change your name… let me know.
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And it’s still a question although I think I’m
pretty interested in changing my name back. Because…
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no shade to anyone that’s changed
their name. It’s just not for me.
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And I think I only could realize that by having done it. I think I always would have wondered if I
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hadn’t done it. So that’s where I’m at in
this process. And I want my son…
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I want that to be a question for my son because… So later, Hunter and I did have a conversation about it
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and we had a conversation about how I felt about it and he was like: Yeah, please keep your name.
00:25:35.040 –> 00:25:41.360
I do not have strong feelings about that.
And he also acknowledged: Yeah, I never
00:25:41.360 –> 00:25:47.120
had to think about this. I’m a man in our
society and I never had to think about whether
00:25:47.120 –> 00:25:52.080
or not I would change my name. I never had to question it and I never had to think about
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what that would be like for someone else.
Which was really good to hear from him.
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And yeah, obviously we’ve learned a lot more about having difficult conversations.
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And our conversation was a lot more than that.
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But yeah, I don’t know. Now I feel like i’m just adding
00:26:20.160 –> 00:26:25.720
ellipses onto the sentences. Have I gotten
across what I wanted to?
00:26:25.720 –> 00:26:27.600
Yeah. I think so.
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I think, a point that you had started
and then gotten away from it, was that
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originally it was really important to you that
all your family has the same last name that your
00:26:41.120 –> 00:26:45.520
children have and you and your spouse have the same last name and then when you started thinking
00:26:45.520 –> 00:26:55.120
about it you realized: Well, actually it would be a great conversation starter if my children ask me:
00:26:55.120 –> 00:27:00.071
Hey mom, why is your last name different than mine or than dad’s?
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Yeah, so I want it to not be automatic for him, that whoever he marries, if he marries someone, will take his last name.
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And I want it to not be automatic for him that women change their name when they get married.
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So that’s where I’m at right now. Even if
I don’t change my name back, I do want to have
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those conversations with my kids. And again, no shade to anyone who chooses to change their last name and absolutely loves it.
00:27:39.134 –> 00:27:42.400
My sister changed her last name and took her husband’s and
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absolutely loves having that last name and
loves being a part of their unit.
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And I love being part of my unit. I just
don’t think that that requires me to
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have the same name as the person I’m
uniting with.
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Oh that was cute.
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Yeah, so what I wanted to say about that,
what I hinted at earlier, when you said
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that you just had always assumed.
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Yeah.
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I didn’t.
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I always really liked my last name. Because it’s really simple. I never in my life have needed to spell my last name to anyone.
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Because Stein, my maiden last name, means stone. So… And it’s a very… you say it, people know what it is
00:28:48.000 –> 00:28:56.320
and just… yeah. I’ve never needed to spell it. So I always knew, that I would like to keep my last name.
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And that I would only change it if the person that I’m marrying also has a really simple last name.
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Which actually… the relationship
I was in before my husband,
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that was a big topic. Because his last name is…
00:29:17.283 –> 00:29:17.783
ridiculous
00:29:17.783 –> 00:29:24.538
…very complicated. Always needs to spell it and they still, everybody writes it wrong.
00:29:24.538 –> 00:29:33.520
However, he didn’t want to take my last name, because his first name is the same as my brother, so that was a thing.
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Luckily, it wasn’t relevant in the end.
00:29:38.534 –> 00:29:43.680
It turned out not to be relevant in the end. So then, when
00:29:45.760 –> 00:29:50.960
my husband and I decided that we wanted to get married and started talking about the last names,
00:29:52.960 –> 00:29:59.520
I asked him about it and he was totally
cool. Well actually, it was a different
00:29:59.520 –> 00:30:03.600
conversation to start with. Because
he’s brazilian and they have different
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traditions and laws about last names there. So they usually have two last names. The first last name is
00:30:14.000 –> 00:30:25.600
the mother’s second last name and the second is the father’s second last name. So again, patriarchy.
00:30:25.600 –> 00:30:33.680
Always the the mother’s last name gets dropped whenever there’s a new generation. Or if you’re
00:30:33.680 –> 00:30:38.000
a woman and you get married, traditionally you ake on your husband’s last name and then you
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kick off your first last name.
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So you keep your father’s last name and then your new spouses last name.
00:30:44.800 –> 00:30:50.350
and then add on your spouse’s, exactly. Some… you can also add on…
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My my host mom, she has three last names. Because she just added on her husband’s last name and kept both of her parents last names.
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So there’s a lot of freedom with what you can do. So I really… and he also has a very…
00:31:07.200 –> 00:31:12.000
both of his last names are also pretty common and pretty simple and the second one is also
00:31:12.000 –> 00:31:17.440
really short, just like mine. So I really liked
the idea of combining them. Which was a little
00:31:17.440 –> 00:31:22.000
bit of a hassle to figure out, if we could do that. Because we got married in Germany so we haven’t…
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But in the end it worked out perfectly. We were able to combine my last name and his second last
00:31:29.120 –> 00:31:35.040
name and now we both have two last names without a hyphen. Again don’t want to
00:31:35.920 –> 00:31:39.840
throw any shade on anyone, but
I don’t like hyphenated names.
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I never wanted to…
00:31:41.918 –> 00:31:47.280
I thought about hyphenating my
name but the two names are not cute together.
00:31:49.360 –> 00:31:54.400
Now I don’t mind it, because I say it so often.
But it’s a lot of consonants.
00:31:56.720 –> 00:32:02.640
Yeah. The way that your name is right now I
think they go together. But that might also
00:32:02.640 –> 00:32:08.960
just be because I’ve said it enough. But if I’m picturing it hyphenated… yeah that’s a lot of…
00:32:09.920 –> 00:32:18.720
that’s a lot. Ayways. So what I did also have, is that I really wanted my whole family to have
00:32:18.720 –> 00:32:25.680
the same name. I didn’t want me to have
one name and then my husband to have
00:32:25.680 –> 00:32:30.080
one name and then for the children to have to choose which of our names they’re gonna have.
00:32:30.080 –> 00:32:37.200
Or I have two names and then everyone else just has one. I wanted all of us to have the same name.
00:32:37.200 –> 00:32:39.280
So that’s what we ended up doing.
00:32:39.280 –> 00:32:47.117
So you were talking about your children’s last names to begin with and then you ended up talking about your guys’s last names? Or…?
00:32:47.117 –> 00:32:49.200
I think so, yeah.
00:32:49.200 –> 00:32:50.700
Okay.
00:32:50.700 –> 00:32:57.934
And that I really wanted to keep my name and that I also liked the brazilian tradition.
00:32:57.934 –> 00:33:03.934
That I would like, if possible, because we didn’t know yet at the time, to do that.
00:33:03.934 –> 00:33:14.480
Because my children are gonna be brazilian. They are gonna have that nationality. No wait, is that right: nationality? Yes.
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Yeah, so I liked that thought. I wanted to
have the combined name and I’m really proud
00:33:25.920 –> 00:33:31.760
and happy that my husband now also carries my last name and he’s very proud of it.
00:33:32.400 –> 00:33:36.480
When he introduces himself here
in Germany, because we live in Germany,
00:33:36.480 –> 00:33:43.040
he very proudly states his last name. My dad is really proud because he adores him so much.
00:33:44.080 –> 00:33:51.840
So he’s also really proud when he
introduces his son-in-law with his last name.
00:33:53.120 –> 00:34:00.320
Okay so that was that. Now we want
to go to Megan’s story about how she
00:34:00.320 –> 00:34:06.480
and her partner decided on their son’s name. What the process was in naming their child.
00:34:07.360 –> 00:34:16.000
Yeah. I just think this is cool. This is not super like earth-shattering or even all that interesting. I’m
00:34:16.000 –> 00:34:21.360
just nosy and I want to know how other people choose their kids names.
00:34:22.720 –> 00:34:25.973
So I’m starting the sharing circle with how we…
00:34:25.973 –> 00:34:28.960
And I asked her to do so. Let’s say that.
00:34:29.680 –> 00:34:36.240
Yeah. Not our kid’s last name. Our kid’s name. First name. And middle name, for that matter.
00:34:38.240 –> 00:34:38.960
Wohoo for middle names.
00:34:42.640 –> 00:34:44.338
I love a middle name. I do.
00:34:44.338 –> 00:34:45.617
Me too.
00:34:45.617 –> 00:34:51.800
I love a middle name.
I’m always a little sad for people with no middle name.
00:34:51.800 –> 00:34:52.700
Me too.
00:34:52.700 –> 00:35:03.777
Which is kinda silly. I’m sure that they’re fine. It just adds complications, probably. But…
00:35:03.777 –> 00:35:08.082
So. We, Hunter and I have both had baby names picked out for a long time.
00:35:08.082 –> 00:35:17.727
Hold on. This is the first episode that you’re using your partner’s name and I think it might be confusing, because it sounds a lot similar to my name.
00:35:17.727 –> 00:35:21.200
I know. You guys always get confused. As to who I’m talking about.
00:35:22.720 –> 00:35:26.800
This happens a lot actually, when we’re
all in the same house and Megan calls
00:35:27.600 –> 00:35:33.840
her partner he’s sometimes like: Did you call Hanna or me? And I’m from the other room: You!
00:35:38.080 –> 00:35:44.800
Yes, so: Hunter. But saying the T
is real weird in that situation.
00:35:45.600 –> 00:35:51.680
With my accent and with his accent even more so. So I call him Hunter. [southern accent]
00:35:52.960 –> 36:01:49.840
I will try to be real American with my
“er”. But I’m probably not going to so hopefully you’ll know who i’m talking about.
36:01:49.840 –> 36:05:44.920
I think it’s fine now that they know. I think they’ll be able to tell.
00:36:06.000 –> 00:36:16.000
So Hunter and I had names picked out. But I only had a girl’s name and he only had a boy’s name.
00:36:16.000 –> 00:36:26.400
Because I am actually in a race with
my sister. Which is still ongoing. For my
00:36:28.080 –> 00:36:39.840
grandma’s name. We both want to name
our potential daughters after her and
00:36:41.920 –> 00:36:47.280
I’m not winning anymore. I was possibly winning when I got pregnant but I’m not winning anymore.
00:36:48.640 –> 00:36:55.760
And Hunter has always had a name, his
grandfather’s name, that he wanted to name a baby.
00:36:55.760 –> 00:37:03.680
So when we got together, we had talked about this -way before we talked about having kids- and
00:37:05.280 –> 00:37:10.960
we were like: Okay cool, I’m on board. We
both had first names picked out.
00:37:12.640 –> 00:37:19.760
So because those were both family names, we decided we would, or Hunter said, that it would be cool for him
00:37:19.760 –> 00:37:26.000
if we did family names. He really wanted
to do all family names. And we had done
00:37:26.000 –> 00:37:33.120
some genealogy stuff on ancestry.com a while ago. Non-sponsored. We don’t have any sponsors yet.
00:37:34.800 –> 00:37:38.448
If you want to sponsor us, that’s fine, hit us up.
00:37:38.448 –> 00:37:40.880
Yeah, I’m very into ancestry.com.
00:37:42.560 –> 00:37:47.520
So we had done some of that before. So we had a pretty wide spectrum of names that we
00:37:47.520 –> 00:37:53.440
were choosing from. We knew what the first name was gonna be and then the middle
00:37:53.440 –> 00:37:58.800
name we were like: Oh, we can choose from all of these names on both of our sides.
00:37:59.680 –> 00:38:05.840
And you know, find a name that we like
and is also then a family name.
00:38:06.960 –> 00:38:12.240
And we went back and forth a bunch
and there was one… What was the name?
00:38:15.840 –> 00:38:17.840
Someone, I think it was on
00:38:18.880 –> 00:38:27.120
my side. I don’t even know. It was pretty far back. t was like early 1800s. Someone was named Archillus.
00:38:29.200 –> 00:38:37.200
Which is a magnificent name. Almost, we were like halfway seriously considering it for a
00:38:37.200 –> 00:38:44.240
hot second. Because it would just be so fun
but then we decided that this is the actual
00:38:44.240 –> 00:38:48.960
name of an actual human so we should probably not just pick something we think is super fun.
00:38:50.800 –> 00:38:56.720
Maybe that’s how some people go about it but it seemed a little bit irresponsible. I didn’t want
00:38:56.720 –> 00:39:07.040
him to be mad at us later. He might be anyway. But you know, whatever. So we ended up picking
00:39:07.040 –> 00:39:14.320
a girl name and a boy name, first and middle, from family names. Which was really fun.
00:39:15.200 –> 00:39:21.760
And it turned out that both of the names we
picked for our son are from Hunter’s side and both
00:39:21.760 –> 00:39:26.880
of the names that we picked from my daughter are for you know, not a daughter that I have, but
00:39:27.760 –> 00:39:31.129
for a potential daughter- were from my side.
00:39:31.950 –> 00:39:33.017
That’s cute.
00:39:33.617 –> 00:39:39.368
Which I don’t know how I feel about that. It’s a little gendery. But that’s just what the names we ended up picking.
00:39:39.368 –> 00:39:47.440
And I liked them both and I almost wished that we were having twins so that I could have had them both.
00:39:48.560 –> 00:39:55.760
But I really like the name that we picked.
His first name is a little bit old man name-y.
00:39:55.760 –> 00:40:03.760
So sometimes I can tell people
are like: “Oh…” When they hear his name.
00:40:06.880 –> 00:40:10.203
“…that’s so sweet…” but…
00:40:10.203 –> 00:40:12.640
My mom had that reaction.
00:40:14.400 –> 00:40:20.800
I hope that’s okay for me to say. My mother had that reaction. So I quickly said: “It’s from hunter’s family!”
00:40:26.400 –> 00:40:33.440
Yeah, No. But I think it’s really cool. And a cool thing about his first name is that Hunter’s
00:40:33.440 –> 00:40:43.760
Grandpa was not his biological grandpa so – even though the patriarchy- he does not have
00:40:43.760 –> 00:40:50.000
his grandpa’s last name, his paternal grandfather’s last name. His paternal grandfather of his
00:40:51.440 –> 00:40:58.640
great… Doesn’t matter. If that were Hunter’s
biological grandpa, he would have had his last name
00:40:59.840 –> 00:41:04.240
and he does not because it was
not a biological grandfather.
00:41:04.240 –> 00:41:11.840
Or an adopted grandfather. It wasn’t someone in his family line. But Hunter grew up really close to
00:41:11.840 –> 00:41:18.960
him and even lived with him for a really long
time with his dad. So it was really important
00:41:18.960 –> 00:41:25.040
to him to have that piece of his family
there. And it was, it’s really cool to have
00:41:25.040 –> 00:41:29.840
that connection. And hopefully our son will also think it’s really cool to have that connection.
00:41:29.840 –> 00:41:35.600
It’s definitely something we’ll talk about. So
yeah, that’s how we ended up with our baby’s name.
00:41:37.440 –> 00:41:40.960
I’d love to hear how other people came up with their baby names.
00:41:40.960 –> 00:41:47.056
And I want now to hear Hanna talk about her baby names.
00:41:47.056 –> 00:41:51.600
Yeah, cause as you can imagine, I have done
00:41:52.160 –> 00:41:59.920
a lot of thinking about it already. Because, as I’ve said a million times before, I’ve thought
00:41:59.920 –> 00:42:12.800
about all the things already for a long time. I, similar to Megan and Hunter, have always
00:42:14.000 –> 00:42:22.160
had, for a long time at least, had at least a boy’s name picked out. Because I wanted to pass on my
00:42:22.160 –> 00:42:30.000
grandfather’s name to him because we were really close and he died when I was really young.
00:42:30.000 –> 00:42:41.000
And also that’s kind of an old man’s name. It has gotten trendy though within the last few years.
00:42:41.000 –> 00:42:46.400
People name their children after their grandparents, I think.
Relatively frequently. We’re not that unique.
00:42:47.360 –> 00:42:55.840
No, we are not. So I’ve had that picked out
and always had struggles though to match a
00:42:55.840 –> 00:43:04.000
middle name to it. Because I also, same as Megan, love middle names and definitely want to give
00:43:04.000 –> 00:43:08.720
my children middle names. I have a middle name, my husband has a middle name. We both have two first
00:43:08.720 –> 00:43:15.600
and two last names and I want my children to have two first and two last names. Which already gives us
00:43:15.600 –> 00:43:22.160
the first limitation. That we can’t really choose two long names, because it’s already gonna be…
00:43:24.880 –> 00:43:26.400
a hefty boy.
00:43:26.400 –> 00:43:28.333
Yeah.
00:43:32.340 –> 00:43:35.950
So, okay. I got lost. Okay, boy’s name.
00:43:35.950 –> 00:43:37.840
So you had names picked out.
00:43:38.720 –> 00:43:42.080
Yeah. Boy’s name, I wanted to pass on
my grandfather’s name. Don’t have a
00:43:42.080 –> 00:43:47.040
middle name for that. I have an idea, but
he hates that, and it’s also kind of long.
00:43:48.880 –> 00:43:58.400
A girl, I, for a long time have had a name, that I just liked. I called my first doll that name and
00:43:58.400 –> 00:44:03.360
it has just always stuck with me. I’ve just
always liked it. It’s easy in every language.
00:44:04.960 –> 00:44:10.240
Which, that’s kind of the most important thing for me. Which has made it a lot more complicated,
00:44:10.240 –> 00:44:21.550
since I chose this man to be the father of my children. I’m very excited about the fact that I married… Oh noooooo….
00:44:23.883 –> 00:44:24.800
All right.
00:44:24.800 –> 00:44:28.400
My phone is the worst.
00:44:28.400 –> 00:44:32.800
We are still having some technical
difficulties, but we’re being real creative
00:44:32.800 –> 00:44:42.080
today about it. We’re recording… so we are always on zoom when we do this. And we have, we always record…
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when I remember, we record zoom as a backup. Megan’s phone is full so we’re going to
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record the rest on the zoom but I’m only going to take Megan’s video and audio from the zoom
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and mine from my phone because the audio always sucks in the zoom because it’s just
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one track and it mashes us together. So what we just came up with right now: That I’m also,
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we’re also, on my laptop I called Megan on facetime -on her phone.
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So we could mute my audio in the zoom, so
she can hear me through her phone on the face-time.
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Different headset.
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Okay, anyways. Let’s wrap this up. I was talking about…
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Oh, right.
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I’m really excited and happy about the fact, that I married
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a brazilian, because I have -this might
sound weird, but: When I was a little girl,
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I once came up to my… I’ve always liked languages, okay? I’ve always wanted to travel everywhere
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and speak all the languages, so one day I came up to my mom…
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She’s on her way. She’s got three of them.
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One day, I went up to my mom, was like: Why did you not marry someone that speaks a different language,
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so I could grow up bilingual?! I was like
Why could you…
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What a weird little baby.
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And she was like: Well, I’m sorry! I liked your father!
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So I decided I would do better! I would marry someone who speaks
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a different language than me, so my
children could grow up bilingual.
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So joke’s on me – I actually did. It’s pretty great. So now, coming back to the story: That makes it a
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little more difficult on the names. Because our children’s names, I want to be easily pronounced.
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Both in german and in brazilian portuguese. I want them to be, I want people to immediately know
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how to spell the name, when they hear it. I don’t want any difficulty. Because I had that luxury and
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I always saw other people struggle with that when they have complicated names and I don’t want that
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for my kids.
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Even when they have uncomplicated names. There are like 17 ways to spell Megan.
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Yeah, I never even thought about that.
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Is there an H, is there’s no H? Is there an extra N, is there another A or another E, like, just…
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Yeah. So I want it to be really easy for
my children. We already did so on the last
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names. Good job mom and dad. And now we want to do an equally good job on their first names.
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So that complicates it. Girls names are
fine, we have a huge list with girls names.
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It’s real easy. But the boys names… just, we hate all of them.
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And there is really little lapover… Overlap. Thanks.
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…in common names, that’s both easy in Brazil and in Germany. The only ones that are common, that
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both of the cultures will know are the biblical names and those are really really really common
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and like overused in Brazil. And we also don’t want that, because, like, everyone is named that.
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Which… funny story… I hope I can
do this sidetrack in two minutes…
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I am a medium and in the first session,
I’m still in training, to train my
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medium skills, but I’m wrapping up. And the
first session that I ever read for myself…
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I’m not gonna go too deep into it, because it’s going to take too long. So anyone who has questions
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Yeah, when you said” I hope i can do this in two minutes… I’m a medium…” and I was like: Oh, buckle in folks…
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Yeah, no. I’m not gonna explain it. I’m just
gonna put it out there and if you’re interested
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you’re gonna have to let us know and I can
explain. But for now I’m just gonna throw it out there.
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In the first session, that I ever read for
myself I saw a previous life where my husband
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and I were incarnated together and we were in a ;relationship and we had a child and…
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The end of the story was, that that child, that soul was telling me: I’m ready now. You’re supposed to have
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me in this life too. And this is my name. And told me their name. And it’s one of the names that’s
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really really common and that we don’t like.
So when I told my husband, he was like: “Great.
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Also: No. Veto.” But we’ll see. Who knows.
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Maybe this soul won’t show up and it’s a
different one or they’ll choose a different
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name for this life. Anyways. So also that,
right? I’m putting so much thought into
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this name game, very well knowing, that in the end the child is gonna let me know what their name is.
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So all of this might be for nothing. It might be useful, because I might one day look at the list
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of names and they will let me know it’s this one, third from the top. And it’s great, that we made
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this list, because now there’s this opportunity for them to tell me through this list. It might
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just also be me looking out the window and see a leaf falling down and they’ll tell me it’s… Buche.
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I hope that’s not it. Buche is
the name of a German tree.
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It’s the only thing I could think of, because
I made the leaf as an example. Okay, anyways.
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And Baum is not a name. Although neither is Buche.
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Well, neither is apple and there’s a person named apple. So anything can be a name.
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True story.
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Okay, I think I should be done with this story.
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Well, so that’s cool. You are…
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You have all these ideas about family names but you also want to let the name come to you.
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Yeah.
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Which is a cool way to do it. I’d love to
hear of the people who have done that too.
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I also want to ask how on board is Matheus
with letting the name come to you guys?
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Well, like I said, when I told him
about this one he didn’t like it.
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So not a 100%.
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But I think in the end, if that happens…
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We’re only going to know when the situation
is here. But I think he’s gonna be okay with it.
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Because he, like, he knows what that means. He
knows like, if that is the name that my child wants,
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then who am I to deny them of that?
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First practice in parenting.
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And he trusts me in receiving those messages.
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It’s gonna be very interesting. I’ll keep you posted. It’s gonna be a while, but…
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And like Megan said: I’m very interested in other people’s stories. So please, if you would like…
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Let us know how your children’s names came
about. How you decided on them. And especially if
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you have an experience like this, that
the name came to you. I want to know like how
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it came to you.
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Yeah, definitely.
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Okay, cool.
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I’m very curious how this is gonna turn out technically.
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Yeah, sorry about all
the stops and starts in my video.
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Yeah, we had a few interruptions. We hope you
don’t mind. Well, we’re still figuring it out.
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Please have patience and grace with us. It’s gonna
get better. It’s just… we don’t have like a million
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dollar budget for all the technical stuff. So
we’re just trying to get by with what we have.
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And I am going to hopefully
test out a another option here soon.
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We are on it.
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If anyone has suggestions for
recording and/or video equipment that is relatively cost effective.
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affordable
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Yeah, relatively affordable. That’d be great.
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Let us know. But I didn’t talk too much in
this last bit, so hopefully my terrible audio
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doesn’t make too much of a difference.
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Yeah. Okay.
Thank you for listening.
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Oh wait, I do want to add: One of the things we thought about addressing in this episode, but I think we’re gonna leave til later is: The name of our podcast.
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Which is gonna be something that we talk about
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specifically around what we call pregnant women
and mothers. And all of that sort of thing.
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Yeah. But we talked about it a little bit on, I realized
after I requested for us to talk about it on
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this one, afterwards I realized that you did go
into it a little bit in the, I think #003
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episode. But yeah, like Megan said.
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Just really briefly.
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Yeah. We are gonna get more into it. Because we have an episode coming up around that subject anyways. So we’re gonna weave that in there.
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Cool. All right. So I guess we’ll talk to you next week.
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Talk to you again next week. Bye!
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Bye
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